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Queen of Roses by RaziiraoftheDesert Queen of Roses by RaziiraoftheDesert
Just a drawing of Razii to get myself back in the creative swing after 2 weeks of being sick and 3 days of being up in Lake County. x.x

Raziira's full name is "Raziira Akasma". Akasma means "white climbing rose" in Turkish. :3 My own real last name means "the rose" in italian, so I wanted to give Raziira, my fursona, a last name that had to do with roses, too. But I didn't want a name with the same letter as her first, and I wanted it to be something that also fit her exotic sounding first name. It took me a looooong time to find something, but I did, and I like it. :3

Yeah, these aren't white roses, but whatever. :/ They're roses. It works. XD

Still experimenting with new styles. OTL I just... I dunno. I'm still trying to find something that fits what I want my art to look like. The thick-lined style I was going for before just wasn't cutting it. I want something a little more realistic, but not TOO realistic. I don't want to make digital paintings or anything like that, just... Sharper, more realistic drawings. I actually like this, just basic, thin lines ,with different colors for the clothing and hair, but black for the rest of it. I may or may not stick with this.
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Finished my part of the trade: [link]
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I think I'm going to give myself a challenge and try drawing Raziira. If it looks awful, then I'll go with Isuzo.
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright, cool! :D I'd love to see Razii done in your style, if you can manage it. X3 If not, I'd love to see Isuzo in your style~
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RottenNails Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
she's amazing !
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awwww, thank you! X3
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RottenNails Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
your welcome
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I personally like this best from what I saw on the first page of your gallery.

Mind if I do a critique? Or are you the kind of artist who likes to discover things for themselves?
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are perfectly welcome to do a critique. :3 I'd like to hear what you'd have to say!
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Oh and I forgot. If you stop using black in the shading, you might want to stop using black in your outline too. Otherwise it might make a weird contrast (never tested it, but the outline artists I'm thinking of use colored outlines). You might want to experiment with dark color outlines, or even multi-colored outlines if you want to get really fancy.
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I stopped using black in my outline for a while~ In fact, most of my more recent drawings were outlined in multiple colors, usually a darker version of the color it outlines. Take a look at my gallery and you'll see em~ :3 I just wanted to try using black outlines this time for a little change. And not all of it is in black. The clothing and hair is done in my usual way. I think I'll probably end up going back to the all colored outlines, though~
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
'Sharper, more realistic drawings' I'll be going along with this. It's a lovely picture for an anime style or line art, but if you want to start getting more realistic, you'll want to start looking at how things look in real life.

-Probably the most important thing I could say is more shading. You need darker shadows, that way she looks more 3 dimensional and more realistic. The way it is right now, she looks like anime or basic line art, since the shadows are so light. This is one of the hardest things to master though, since shading is like almost *all* of making a realistic picture lol. There are so many aspects of it that I can't even talk about in this small comment box.

-Try not to use black or white or grey. Try to always put a color in your whites, even if it's light yellow or pale green. Exceptions to this can be discovered later. So with her nose and her underbelly, you'll want to try maybe a dark blue/very dark orange and a light yellow. Shades (white/black) are rarely seen in the real world. That's why you use colors instead.

-Rather than adding black to make your colors darker, think of darker colors instead, such as blue or purple or red. If you haven't looked up color theory, you will need to do this, as it sheds some interesting light on color. For example, you might shade her yellowish fur with orange, red, or even blue(for really dark areas). You'd be surprised what colors there are in shadows, that you don't even notice. I'm still learning all the weird colors hidden in shadows. For example, snow is not white>grey>dark grey, as one might expect. It's yellow-white>blue>purple. In sunlight.

-Pay a little more attention to perspective. Her left arm would need to be bigger at the elbow, since it's popped out at us. Everything else seems fine, at least to me. I mess up arms sometimes too.

-On proportions, I usually don't care, since there are great artists who don't use realistic proportions. My personal opinion is that the mouth/muzzle is a little large. But if you love it, keep it (this is a little-mouth wolf artist talking lol). Up to you really. I think everything else is pretty good, did you use a model for those proportions or are you just naturally good at it?

With any critique, you should accept and reject. Do what you think is right, test what I've said and decide for yourself what you want, otherwise you'll probably just become a product of what everyone else wants, and that will not be pretty ^^.
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I probably should have used different wording. XD I didn't mean truly "realistic". I save the realistic style for my traditional works, like this: [link]

What I meant was something less 2-D, less like... Well, this I guess works as an example. [link]

Or less... Well, I want lines that are less noticeable, but still there. In a lot of my previous works, like this: [link]

The lines just seemed too bulky to me, and I've been using that style for a long time. :/ I wanted to go with something a little more realistic, but not full on realistic. Something that still goes within my personally favored style. I like using lines to define the main focus of the picture. :3

Darker shadows? Really? I tried to make the shadows in this piece stand out more than my usual, just to try for a little more defined source of lighting. I've been playing around with shading and highlights a lot recently, trying to figure out how exactly to get it to work in my favor. I didn't realize it would need to be even darker than that! XD

I never use straight up white for my whites. XD Her underbelly and muzzle are actually tinted yellow-ish ever so slightly. Is it not noticeable enough? Should I make it a little /more/ yellowish? For the shading, I tried just lowering the saturation of the color and darkening it, with my mindset being that if it looked /too/ yellow or orange, it would look weird. XD;

I studied color theory in high school, learning ALL about complementary colors, shading, etc. like the way shadows on human faces are actually supposed to be green, but I just... I dunno. I just didn't like it! XD I can understand using that particular method for certain things, but to me, and from what I've experimented with, it doesn't always produce what I'm looking to create, especially with the actual characters. For backgrounds, oh yeah. I tend to use that method a lot, especially in my traditional pieces. But my digital pieces, I like to keep more anime-ish, less realistic, but still not as flat out 2-D as actual anime drawings tend to be.

Still, I might try to play around with using complementary colors for my digital works, too. I've thought about ti before, but kind of decided against it, since I'm already playing around a lot with my style right now.

Perspective is HARD for me. D; Oh god, I have never been good with it. I've been trying to do a lot more recently involving poses that would require me to pay attention to perspective, like this one, but its till tough for me. Its another thing I studied in high school, but no matter how much it is explained to me, when I actually sit down and try to draw something like that elbow, it ends up looking wrong to me! Even if I sit down with a photo of a person in that pose, once I start drawing it, its like my mind and my hand start arguing about whether or not its right. XD

Haha, I try to make it look a bit larger than it should. She's a "Chuma" (puma/cheetah hybrid). When designing her, I found that I wanted to use a puma's more muscular, bulky build for her body type since it fits me better, including a puma's facial structure, as opposed to a cheetah's. But because I also wanted to make her markings look more like a cheetah's, I kind of have to excentuate her more puma-like structure in certain ways to show she's not just a cheetah with weird spots. XD Puma's muzzles are pretty big, if you look at em. For instance, look at this picture: [link]

Not as big as I draw it, but still pretty big. I try to accentuate that. I make it bigger than it should be just to make the puma in her stand out. Even if it doesn't make other people see it, it makes me feel better about the character. XD

For this particular piece I studied a few photographs to help with the elbow and the neck position, but other than that, it was all my doing. XD;

You are quite right~ You have given me a few ideas that I'd like to explore, and I thank you for that much! ^^
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Tharesan Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Aw, k. I was just judging this particular piece. So if your outlines are different in all your others, I wasn't really looking at that.

Yeah, darker shadows in this particular piece, definitely. This is very bright, like she's got light all around her everywhere.

You sure you used yellow in that white ;)? I picked up the color with my program and it was perfect or almost perfect white (didn't look at the numerical values). It's possible if you saved it as a jpg that it turned into perfect white, since jpg loses quality.

Anyways, that was just my intention, to give you ideas. A path for you to take if you want to. I don't think all this info is limited just to realism. I'm sure there are ways to apply these realism techniques to other styles as well. So it would be good to try out new things and experiment until you have something that you like ^^.
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, yeah, they're different in others. XD But I will remember your words for my next drawings~

Alright, I'll try to work on darkening the shadows on my characters even more, then! :3 In this piece, the light was supposed to be coming down from the top right, and it was supposed to be somewhat bright, but I think that, at least her legs and the clothing, could use some more of those darker shadows you were talking about.

I'm sure I did! D: But I did save it as a jpg. I kind of have to, unfortunately. >.>; I'll try to make the next whites I use more yellow or blue, depending on which character it is. :3

I agree, its something any artist could incorporate into his or her style. I'll mess with a few of the things you suggested, and who knows? It could help me get my style to where I want it to be. :3
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Mystificateur Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
great pose and lovely colouring (and the skirt aw yiss) =v=
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww, thank you! x3
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AMTRAK Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
Very nice.
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RaziiraoftheDesert Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much!
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AMTRAK Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
You're very much welcome.
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